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The collaboration utopia episode 3: what does it take?

That Big Tech is not fully serving our education system is becoming increasingly clear. But how do we become more independent and sovereign? What role do European alliances play in this? What is the doomsday scenario? And what is the dream of international cooperation?

This podcast is in Dutch.

In episode 3, we talk to Jan Haarhuis (co-founder Charm-EU) and Evelien Renders (chair of EUNIS). Christien Bok (innovation manager SURF) concludes with a concrete call: what responsibility should you take as an institution?

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In this three-part series, we explore the balance between national autonomy and international clout. Who do you cooperate with and who do you not? What conditions apply? What are the risks? How do you make conscious choices? How do you ensure reciprocity? And when is it okay to give up autonomy? Listen to this new series now in your favourite podcast app or save it and listen to it later!

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